Former FBI General Counsel James Baker testified in October before the House Judiciary and Government Reform and Oversight Committees, and the newly-released transcripts from the hearings indicate that members of President Donald J. Trump’s own cabinet were bucking to have him removed from office under the 25th Amendment.
“According to Baker, Rosenstein and two cabinet members were ‘onboard with this concept’ of using the 25th Amendment as part of a coup to remove the president from office. Baker said he did not know who the two cabinet members were,” said The Federalist’s Sean Davis, posting a screenshot of the testimony.
The full testimony can be read here.
Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) was pressing Baker on internal pressures from the FBI, the nation’s highest law enforcement agency, in conjunction with the Department of Justice to remove a duly elected president. Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had suggested wearing a wire in order to take Trump down.
“To the best of my recollection, it was the same kind of thing I described with respect to the wire, that I was being told by some combination of Andy McCabe and Lisa Page that, in a conversation with the Deputy Attorney General, he had stated that he — this was what was related to me — that he had at least two members of the President’s Cabinet who were ready to support, I guess you would call it, an action under the 25th Amendment,” Baker said.
Further, Baker implied during his testimony that the FBI and DOJ had contemplated numerous ways of removing Trump from office – not just by using the 25 Amendment. Meadows pressed on what those methods included, and Baker’s counsel instructed him not to respond.
“Congressman Meadows, at this time, we’ll instruct the witness not to answer. I anticipate that you will ask us to seek clarity from our chain of command in reference to this question,” Baker’s counsel said.
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